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Post by The Clans on Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:27 am

@Vagrant Hero wrote:I fully agree with judging all things based on their merits. But yeah, don't want to derail this into fully factually based argumentation on what Islam really is.

Any idea when Zuko gets back?

I study religion and history as a hobby, lime Joe does. In addition I personally know a family that practices Islam and I just got through watching the first half of Schindler's List tonight for the first time. Speaking of in-group out-group, the things you say... Pretty similar to what the Reich propaganda machine put out.

So ehh... In closing, don't bring it up again unless you want to get your figurative shit kicked in. Get me?
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Post by Vagrant Hero on Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:50 am

Elective monarchy is a pretty good system all things considered, so long as it isn't extremely corrupt like the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth or the Imperium itself. Candidates are really selected based on who is most likely to play the part of puppet the best, malleability, etc.

Also, congratulations on making me want to debate this further. You've got a feel for how to handle a conversation, The Clans. Very effective to try to discredit what another person says by associating them with some big bad thing no one likes. But understand I am not targeting individual Muslims. I speak objectively about the ideology of Islam, what it preaches, and what it is accomplishing even now.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2015
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/terror-2016.htm

As you can see from the statistics, thousands of people are killed each year by Muslims. To say that these people are not true Muslims is blatantly false and dishonest. The man in charge of ISIS has a Ph.D in theology and Islamic studies, so I would think he knows that he's talking about when he says throwing gay people off cliffs is scripturally supported. (Which it is, in case you weren't aware.) His name is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. I highly recommend looking him up.

There are plenty of Muslims who do not support these actions. I am not contesting that at all. But the religion itself has death as a punishment for apostasy (leaving the faith), and goes out of its way to silence those who go against the religious establishment. There are literally specific phrases for people who criticise the actions of the leaders. This is the concept known as making trouble, which is, surprise surprise, punishable by death.

The ideology also makes it known that you will be rewarded in the afterlife for giving your life for the cause. The Quran is considered to be the literal word of Allah, directly from Mohammed. Look into the life of Mohammed as well if you want an interesting read. Because nothing has changed. Countries which are predominantly Muslim are being held back by the ideology.

Taking a look into what the sins in Islam are, you will find that it is a collectivist ideology that is concerned with propagating itself and spreading its belief. http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/hh/major_sins.htm

So compare me to the Nazis if you wish. They achieved many great things, and were the first real regime to put forth animal rights acts, environmental protection legislation, anti-smoking laws, etc. Now, kick my figurative ass. Do it.


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Post by Vagrant Hero on Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:52 am

Islam has nothing to do with Islam.:

Islam is the religion of peace.:

Truck goes on a jihad.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YouATETiM6I
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