Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

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Post by Caspoi on Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:29 pm

The Nakturians bow in return. Meanwhile they are doing their best to try and understand the meaning of the script, using their own minds and the best computers that they have to try and decipher it. They find no hope however as their minds are simply unable to comprehend the idea of sounds, let alone ones with meaning. They try their best nevertheless [is your language phonetic or pictographic?]

This part is less comprehensible as it shows numbers rather than pictures but the Nakturians do understand that it is a case of statistics. they give one of their own showing elements and their different proprieties.

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Mthis on Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:33 pm

(i dont understand what you mean by Phonetic or Pictographic) A Septhi scientist moves up with a tablet, slowly trying to use simple lines to represent mathematics, and start to try and show off mathematical ideas and concepts to the Nakturians, perhaps Mathematics is the universal language?

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Caspoi on Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:44 pm

[I mean is the characters of your language based on sound (phoentic) so that an "I" can be expected to sound like an "I" regardless of circumstances and words are in writing composed of many different characters to make up the entire pnounciation of the word? Otherwise are the different characters meant to symbolise the very object that they refer to? Meaning that an "I" would not represent a sound but for instance "line". A classical example of the latter system is the hieroglyphs.]

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Mthis on Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:57 pm

[Hieroglyph one would make too much sense, that. Yes]

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Caspoi on Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:23 pm

[So pictographic?]

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Mthis on Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:31 pm

[if that is like Hieroglyphs. Yes]
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Ell-Ärks on Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:50 am

Tarjan , now kneeling completely, looks curiously at the different elements being shown, hoping to find something that could potentially be useful for his empire.
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Caspoi on Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:02 pm

One of the Nakturians read the tablet, realising after a while that it represents numbers and tries to decipher them. The others have made some progress with their language, guessing what the different words may mean, it is however not very substantial and they are far from able to construe any sentences of their own.

It is simply a list, similar to the periodic table, that only shows the order and atomical characteristics of the different elements, nothing about any uses they have.

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Mthis on Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:15 pm

The Septhi maintain showing Mathematical Issues, to see if the Nakturians can answer them, and in so doing perhaps slowly work forward a true way to communicate. The Prince observes it all closely, and the Nakturians, and their bodily form with great interest.
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Ell-Ärks on Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:56 am

Tarjan orders the type-1 AI in the holoprojectors to display all of their elements in the same way. This is mostly for Tarjans sake as he failed hard at chemistry in school. (Grades are easily faked in the empire.)
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Caspoi on Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:16 am

After a while the Nakturians returned the tablet with their translation of the Septhi numbers on it. They had also made some small progress with writing.

Those on the Macheidiemian ship tried a similar process where they handed over their own wrtiting to the aliens for translation.

[To both of you we could skip the process to when they have managed to understand each other's language]

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Mthis on Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:07 am

After deciphering the Nakturian language communication appears to be formally established. The Septhian Prince leads the communications with them.

"I am Prince Grasekh of the Eternal Dynasty of Septhi, leader of this scientific expeditionary force. It is a great blessing and honor to meet you, we wish to know of your unique species and people and in return you can ask whatever knowledge you wish of the Dynasty and its workings."
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Ell-Ärks on Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:08 am

After going through the trouble sending after an emergency class long range warp ship carrying a royal interpreter and a Nakturian shaped communicator drone, and having it dock to the other side of the californium seeker, the language could finally be translated.


The interpreter named Maja (female) initiates by making the drone say the macheidiemian greeting phrase: "Greetings fellow children of space. We are from the eternal planet of Macheidiema. Located in the long arms of Mach. We come in great peace. We look forward to your cooperation in trade, diplomacy and greatness in battle."
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Caspoi on Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:19 am

Through the process of translation the Nakturian answer came: "We are Nakturians, the people of Naktura, warriors of the Nakturan Stratocracy. Our realm stretches through the stars. Ask and we shall answer."

"As do we" Rinhoch answered. "We are Nakturians of Naktrura. Cooperation between our peoples would be preferable.

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Mthis on Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:27 am

The Prince nods as he talks to the Nakturians "We wish to know of your culture and society, your beliefs. As such we can get a good understanding of your kind. Thus we can easier form a relationship of cooperation between our species and nations"
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Ell-Ärks on Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:44 pm

"I, on the behalf of the Empire of Mach, am glad that you think so." Maja replies "I am sure that there is a lot that we have to offer that'll come to your liking."
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Caspoi on Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:01 pm

"It is hard to answer the question without knowing what differs us from you but I will try, our society is a hiearchial one where the greatest warriors join the top of the Stratocracy, led by the Divine Warrior. We believe that there is a Divine Spark in all living beings that is what gives us our life and power. It also takes it's form in things like fires and the sun. What do you believe in?"

"Do you have anything particular in mind. It seems as if you were fond of certain metals so mayby we can trade them to you in exchange fro other resources."

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Mthis on Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:40 pm

The Prince nods "I see...Our own society is alot more focused on the good of the individual while maintaining solidarity and stability of the entire populace..We have an elected government below my family, the Dynasty. The Peoples Government as it is refered to."
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Ell-Ärks on Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:01 am

"The only resource that has any value to us other than weapon grade plutonium is the californium that powers the ship spawners" Maja replies.
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Caspoi on Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:09 am

They looked rather insulted at the insinuations, "It is not as if we do not care about the individual nor that our society is particularly unstable. We allow people to advance within our ranks with strict but fair rules. Everyone has a chance and we try our best to help people."

"I am certain that we could help mine and produce such resources. In exchange we would like to buy some of your technology as well as copper resources."

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Mthis on Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:45 pm

"That is good at least, that you work hard to help your people. Your system is a working meritocracy then?"
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Ell-Ärks on Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:54 am

"Are you absolutely sure you want to handle our electronic waste from 7500 years ago? We have materials and alloys that far outperform copper in every category." Maja replies. "But if it is copper you want. Help yourselves."
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Caspoi on Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:11 am

"I suppose that you could call it that. Skill at arms is the primary way of judging a person's place in society, the best way to see their worth."

"Copper is one of those resources that we have found that you can never get enough of and sadly our copper mines are not up to the task, if you have no use of it then we are sure to get it for a fair price."

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Mthis on Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:18 pm

"A Warrior Meritocracy then? I see, a very martial culture you hail from then, back in our history on our homeworld many Tribes and Clans on the Plains had such martial tendencies."
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Ell-Ärks on Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:03 pm

"Ahh, i see. If our grand supreme leaders can stand on common ground, i am sure you can get it at any price if our zitoettietob is in a good mood." (Zitoettietob = emperor, people spirit)
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Caspoi on Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:30 pm

"At any rate you say that you and your dynasty rules your realm yet you also claim to have an government elected by the people, how does that work?"

"Let us hope that they can. If such an agreement is to come to fruition we better return so as to inform our government of this."

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Mthis on Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:59 am

"Yes my Mothers Dynasty rules spiritually over our people as a whole, but a democraticly peoples electorate oversees most Government focuses as they are of the material realm, thus we are there to provide Spiritual Unity, protection and guidance. Our bloodline is directly blessed by the Gods."
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Ell-Ärks on Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:12 am

"Let us do" Maja responds as she stands up "Time is essential. My masters are calling. I will be leaving this drone and its blueprints as a gift to your civilization. It can send its signals to the far reaches of the galaxy and contains limited information about our empire, should you want to research." She bows and says "To the end of times!" before she turns around, heading for her ship. The airlock closes behind her and the seeker crew.
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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Caspoi on Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:16 am

"Interesting, is there anything else that you wish to ask of us?" They refrained from further comment on the status of the monarchy as they thought that it might be impolite.

The two Nakturan ships deteach and head towards their brethren.

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Re: Septhi Contiued Exploration (Open Thread)

Post by Mthis on Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:48 pm

"We merely wish to ask if it possible to find a way to arrange a further diplomatic conversation of understand of borders and boundaries, thus makking it easier to conduct full lenght diplomacy and potential trade."
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